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05/05/2011 10:52 PM  
What normal happens to A&P's who worked on a helicopter that crashed ? and crashed at his fault ? then crashed at his fault if he tested positive for pot in his system even though he was not high at the time of work? And I am talking about an accident not intentional that was the fault of the mechanic missing something or forgetting to put something on. Just curious, I am not a A&P. or a pilot
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05/11/2011 12:44 AM  
At this time 94 people looked at this and no one could post any kind of response ? No one knows an answer to this ?
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05/12/2011 1:23 PM  
It does not matter if it was the mechs fault or not, you will most likely be sued and could face jail time. Having an A@P requires a responsability that very few other jobs have. If you are going to drink or use drugs find another line of work.
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05/16/2011 7:55 PM  
no one responded because everyone knows that showing up to work drunk and or testing positive for illegal drug use will result in immediate termination. most employers in this industry require preemployment drug testing followed by random testing.

so ya, he is going to get hung out to dry and loose his license and as little guy posted get his butt sued by the grieving families.
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08/11/2011 10:18 AM  
yeah, drugs or alcohol=full liability everytime, just about anywhere. if you are drunk and get t-boned in an intersection, and the guy had blown a red light, it will likely still be your fault. Little guy has it figured, there is no room for substance abuse in aviation. If you know someone who has problems with it and is getting into the industry, i highly recommend you try your best to educate them on the professional repercussions of such actions, and also the degree of responsibility they hold. It is a professional position and holds a great deal of responsibility. Just like a doctor, or paramedic, ect. You don't see them showing up impaired. The main difference being if you pull a boner because your impaired on the job, hundreds of people (ei; air transport) could die due to your negligence.
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12/05/2011 10:25 PM  
Remember the old saw that there are no stupid questions?  The original poster found a way to ask one.  Wonder why few bothered to reply?  You really don't know?

Asking professional pilots or mechanics what might happen if one tests positive for drug use following the crash of an aircraft for which one is responsible is a little like postulating what might happen if one smacks explosives with a hammer while twirling a sparkler and standing on hot coals. 

Such questioning doesn't really deserve, or need, an answer, does it?
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12/09/2011 9:46 AM  
Hopefully he gets jail time and afterwards is lucky to gain employment elsewhere.
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12/09/2011 6:53 PM  
obviously, the drug and alcohol testing will be immediate- to see if youve been using recently, or were under the influence at the time. you test positive for drugs/alcohol your screwed. they say you can go to rehab, and go back to a safety sensitive position, but i doubt people ever make it back in the industry after a dirty piss test, or a alcohol test showing they were under the influence that day.

if a honest mistake happens, and things go south, youll get a thorough sit down with the FAA, where they question everthing you did that day, from your breakfast to the torque values you used. then they go into a investigation, and if youre found at fault, you get a court case, (where you can get a aviation lawyer) and you can be charged with anything from criminal negligence to manslaughter. this is what i understand.
never been there, best thing to do is not use, and not mess up.

to little guy^^- they dont just throw mechs in jail if its not his fault. its called the juducial system buddy.
amazing it took 7 months for someone to seriously answer his question.
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12/17/2011 5:19 AM  
Do not expect drug testing to be immediate, not unless you were on the scene.  You weren't operating. 


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