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Subject: Wanting to start flying
 
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tsimmnsUser is Offline
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07/18/2013 2:49 PM  

Let me first preface this message by saying I'm sure you read a lot of these type post: "I want to fly " etc.  With that being said I have a few questions.

 

First off I am 30 years old with lots of military maintenance experience and absolutely 0 flying experiene.  I have considered going the military route, but being Air Guard I just am not sure about going Army Guard, enlisting, going back to Basic/AIT and then hoping to get a Pilot slot in the next 3 years.

 

So here are my questions.  What could one reasonably expect out of a flight school?  Seeing as how the closest flight school to me is 2 hours, can you work while you attend a flight school?  As for just trying to get flying hours on the side, what can someone expect?  Can you actually just pay by hour and hope to get a Private License that way?  If so, how long of a period would this take if your paying say 800 dollars every two weeks for lessons?

 

Now for jobs.  Like I previous stated I own a pretty successful business and have a ton of down time, so I guess this is something you could say I want to do as something extra.   Let's say I eventually get my Prviate, CFI, and all the other ratings that come along, what kind of job could someone with just that experience get?  Would buying a helo pay off in the long run if I'm doing it just for my benefit to help build hours?  I know this seems like a long of rambling, but I am curious what options are.  I know the WOFT is an option with the Guard, but when I got out what experience would I really have also?  Thanks for taking the time to read and any advice is appreciated.

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07/19/2013 2:31 PM  
Flight training is going to run you about $300/hr and you'll need 200 flight hours to get a job. $800 every two weeks would take a long time to get all your ratings, i.e. private, instrument, commercial, cfi, cfii. The ONLY job you'll be qualified for until you have around 1500 flight hours is flight instruction. Instructors don't make a lot of money, around $500-$800/mo., so if you already have a successful business, then keep it going!

If you want to buy a helicopter in order to build hours then I would suggest starting your own flight school, I've met a couple of guys who did that.
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07/19/2013 3:33 PM  
Thanks for the response.  Well let's say I didn't want to get all my ratings, but just my Private License, can you do anything with it?  Why I'm asking I guess is if I got the Private Pilot's License, could I not then just fly around and build up my hours if I bought a helo instead of going through lots of time building exercises?  And again, my apologies for all the beginner questions.

Also, being the Guard I have the Montgomery GI Bill, but have also read that most flight schools now only approve you for the Post 9.11 GI Bill.
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07/19/2013 6:44 PM  
Yes, you can build up your hours with just a private license, you just can't fly for compensation or hire. As for the GI Bill, you should try asking that one on the verticalreference.com forum, its a lot more active, especially with military guys!
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07/22/2013 10:02 PM  
I'd like to comment on your consideration of an Army Guard enlistment in the hopes of transitioning to Warrant Officer and flight school. #1. Do not join the Army Guard unless you want to do your enlisted job. It is clear who enlists in order to get a Warrant slot (mostly because they ask their commander w/in the first week of arriving to the unit). #2. If you just want to fly, keep working towards getting accepted to Army flight school prior to signing up. This means setting yourself apart from the other applicants with college and flight training. Believe it or not, an associates and a PPL makes a huge difference. Your military maintenance experience will help as well. Find some senior Warrant officers in your local Army Guard Aviation unit, introduce yourself and ask them for their advice. (You may want a LOR someday, but not the 1st day, if you get my drift). As for the Montgomery GI bill not being accepted for flight school? You might want to 1. Talk to the VA and 2. Talk to more schools and ask them about their “professional pilot” associates degrees. 2cents from a former army flight troop commander and Kiowa pilot.
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09/05/2013 2:15 PM  
I've got better options for you.
Number one, Chapter 33 of the Post 9/11 generation of pilots offers 100% funding of your flight instruction so long as you work with a community college or university to attain an aviation degree as well.
Two, I'm a CFII at Leading Edge Aviation in Bend, Oregon and I don't make $500-$800 a month, I bring home at least $2500 a month every month and have been doing so since I got my CFII rating and was hired out of the school as a student and into the CFI pool.
Three, on top of the pay, I get free flight time instructing the students, so in the last year, I've generated 800 hours and just hit the coveted 1,000 hour mark that makes me insurable in the commercial world. So I only paid for 200 flight hours, and in the last year, got 800 for free.
Four, you have to go to a 141 school vs a 61 school to use your GI benefits.
Five, don't buy a helicopter, the maintenance costs will astound you.
Six, contact me personally, or look into this school's website at www.flybend.com and talk to our admissions coordinator Jessica Parker. She can get you set up and knock that bucket list item off.
Good luck buddy!
Aaron Vane CFII
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