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Subject: WingX, myWingMan, ForeFlight, FlyQ, Garmin - which do you use?
 
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05/27/2013 12:35 PM  
I'm going through the trial period on these apps on my iPad Mini and wanted to know what everyone out there is using AND WHY. These apps are designed with the airplane pilot in mind so they all pretty much do the same thing however some are better than others for low level helicopter use.

FlyQ - I've been an AOPA member for decades but to me FlyQ is not as intuitive to learn to use. I'm still trying to figure out some basic things in it. I really wanted to like it because it's the least expensive of all but if it's hard to learn it'll probably be out.

Garmin - They say I already used up my 30 day trial but I've never used it so I guess I won't be testing the Garmin app.

ForeFlight - This app only has obstacles for people who pay for their Pro version (DOUBLE the price of the basic app) so I'm not even going to do the free trial. Isn't obstacle avoidance one of the most important things for aviation? Why not include it in their basic package?

Bendix King- myWingMan - I'm hoping to give myWingMan some feedback from a working helicopter pilot's perspective for their helicopter app because the current app is a great airplane app, just not very useful at my altitudes.

WingX - Up to now it seems to be the one to beat if you're a helicopter pilot but I have a few concerns.  I think the question limit is one question per month maybe? A couple of weeks ago I emailed him a question and he replied in a matter of hours but after his last update a few days ago my Mini was acting weird with terrain disappearing on its own but my email to him this week has gotten no replies. Maybe he's taking a looong Memorial Day weekend break.

I'll give it a few more weeks of testing then when I decide which one to buy I'll email that developer with all the issues I found and see how they work on them to make it even better for all the helicopter pilots out here.

Self discipline is when you do something that you know is right even though you don't want to do it. As a professional and safe pilot you have to maintain control over your desires & emotions. Have INTEGRITY and great WORK ETHIC and you'll succeed in life.
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06/15/2013 12:18 PM  
Hey Carlos,
Have you made any decisions yet on the apps? So far I haven't been using my iPad for navigation much yet. Still have my trusty old Garmin 196.
Since you are flying out in the GOM I figured I would point out a couple apps to you also in case you haven't seen/used them yet.
  • SkyCharts - I think this one cost a couple of dollars but one of the charts it has is a GOM chart. Since I am not flying down there yet I can't verify it's accuracy. 
  • Helidecks - I think this one was free. It's supposed to be a list of all the Oil Decks.

Be interested what your results are.

~David

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06/16/2013 12:23 AM  
They gave me another 30 day trial so I'm currently testing the Garmin app. It has one of the best weather radars out there but it doesn't have a simulator which helps on trips that come up quickly in areas you haven't flown before. I was going to take an EC 135 from Texas to Illinois and used the sim in the WingX app to confirm my planning regarding route and altitudes.

I've never flown in the GOM in fact I only have a little bit of oil and gas flying and it was overseas when I was getting my ATP in the Middle East.

I haven't heard of SkyCharts so I'll take a look.

Each app has it's own pros and cons but WingX is neck to neck with Garmin AT THIS MOMENT. WingX doesn't have weather radar and Garmin's radar is great. Garmin is $25 year cheaper than WingX but it doesn't have obstacles. So they're both real close.

I had to stop using FlyQ even though it's pretty good too because I can't add user waypoints and I need to have the locations of the hospitals I fly to.

Watch for Bendix King because they're coming out with a helicopter specific app that is being designed for us, unlike all the other apps that are for airplane drivers.

Self discipline is when you do something that you know is right even though you don't want to do it. As a professional and safe pilot you have to maintain control over your desires & emotions. Have INTEGRITY and great WORK ETHIC and you'll succeed in life.
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06/23/2013 10:18 AM  
For those without Garmin Pilot experience let me tell you it's a great app and I encourage all to use the 30 day trial. I really like this app. It has a very good manual and after an hour it's extremely intuitive. It's one of the best and easiest apps to use in the air under turbulence (every helicopter flight is turbulent, lol).

When the trial period ends I'll be torn between paying for Garmin or WingX for the next year and here's why :

OBSTACLES:
WingX is the best of all EFB apps displaying obstacles but they still need to make some corrections. Hopefully Garmin Pilot will add obstacles to the VFR Chart (not the sectional map). For airplanes it's ok but for helicopters we need those obstacles to be clearly displayed.

RADAR:
This one is easy because Garmin has one of the best and WingX doesn't even have radar. Hopefully they'll add something like Garmin, ForeFlight, or MyRadar use and not the one that FlyQ and myWingMan use. Those last 2 apps display a really scattered radar image that if you just look at that app I wouldn't take off. I think they use "Ground Reflectivity" instead of "Composite" to display their radars. Not good.

AIRSPACE:
Garmin Pilot beats WingX on the VFR map but not on the Sectional. There are some airspaces that are so cluttered that you can hardly see the Class D segmented (Randolph AFB - KRND). If Garmin could add some type of airspace highlight on the sectional that would help OR give us the option of displaying the VFR map on the split screen (like WingX) then we'd have the sectional and the VFR maps both available. I can't simply use the VFR map exclusively because then I wouldn't be able to see the upcoming obstacles that are written on the Sectional map.

SIMULATOR:
Very useful for flight planning on the ground before a long cross-country flight. Garmin has great sims on their other GPS products so I don't see how it would be so far off to add it to Garmin Pilot app. Here WingX takes Garmin.

MULTIPLE IPADS with 1 SUBSCRIPTION:
You can use the Garmin Pilot on two iPads or an iPad and an iPhone SIMULTANEOUSLY for only one subscription!! That's great for me because I have a data plan on my iPhone and don't currently on my iPad so I can use them both at the same time. When I buy another month of data for the iPad I'll have redundancy.

I've read every page of the WingX website and watched every video but still haven't been able to find out if WingX does it and since I'm still waiting for a reply to my last email I sent them weeks ago I guess I'll never know. Anyone know?

Self discipline is when you do something that you know is right even though you don't want to do it. As a professional and safe pilot you have to maintain control over your desires & emotions. Have INTEGRITY and great WORK ETHIC and you'll succeed in life.
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