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Subject: Helicopter Banner Advertising
 
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05/04/2013 10:06 AM  
Helicopter Professionals, Can anyone provide any detailed insight into helicopter banner towing operations for aerial advertising? I know you must have a Part 133 certificate and I’ve read the FAA’s guidance from FS-I-8700-1, Information for Banner Tow Operations. Does anyone know of any operations that have been successful conducting this service in the US? Any issues with the FAA or state/local governments? Any issues with banner towing from an R44 with an external cargo hook (assuming w/in W&B limits) utilizing a legitimate weighted banner system? Thanks!
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05/05/2013 10:26 PM  
I do banner tow operations, and no, you do not need a 133 certificate, (although I have one). You need a "waiver" to fly a banner over a congested area, or to fly a banner over a non congested area if you do not have a 133 certificate. If you have a 133 you can fly a banner over uncongested areas without anything further.

Most operators flying banners in the US are using larger machines, even a jetranger can only pull about 8,000 sq/ft of banner.... an Astar can do about a 20,000 sq/ft banner and we also have a 212 for the larger banners.

Not sure as I could market a 44 on banners----it would be cheaper to use an airplane---with new technology they are flying bigger banners now.

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05/06/2013 4:12 AM  
FMTNDT, Thanks for the clarification. How much work is involved with obtaining a "waiver" to fly a banner over a congested area? I'm guessing you have to go through your local FSDO. Any issues with local/state government? I appreciate the insight!
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05/07/2013 9:46 PM  
All depends on the FSDO. Worst case, each pilot will have to demonstrate a banner pick up, touch & go, and a banner set down in each aircraft type. The provision of FAR 91.119(d) is NOT applicable when flying a banner. You are required to notify each FSDO area at least 5 days before operating in their district. The biggest problem you will have is finding somewhere to pick up and drop off the banner---most airports will require insurance, permits to operate etc... Regardless of FSDO or local laws, you need to be cognizant of noise abatement---all because you "can" does not mean you "should".

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05/19/2013 7:16 AM  
Thanks again FMTNDT. How do you calculate the heaviness of the banner for aircraft weight and balance purposes? I'm guessing it's a combination of weight of the banner, square footage of the banner, and indicated air speed.
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