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Subject: BH407 Transition
 
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01/28/2005 10:03 AM  
Would like to hear from people that transitioned from the 206L series of aircraft to the 407. What are your impressions on the systems, how it flys, etc. Thanks Bill
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01/28/2005 10:16 AM  
Hey Bill, If you like the 206 you will love the 407. And I mean love, as in thinking about her when you're not with her... Systems for the most part will look familiar, except for the way you interact with the engine. Pay real close attention to the part where they teach you about FADEC failures. The procedure is commonly misunderstood, and a wrong reaction to the FADEC horn can turn what is a a benign failure into a hairy emergency if you're not careful. It's a very reliable aircraft mechanically, but it is prone to electrical glitches, so make sure you understand the warning lights and can distinguish a real warning from a false indication brought on by a downpour. Remember to always let the engine coast all the way down before you turn off the power, or you'll spend an embarrassing few minutes on your next startup motoring the engine to 'park the pistons' before you can start. Other than that, it's a pussycat to fly. Fast, smooth and comfortable. Enjoy!
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01/28/2005 1:31 PM  
HI...been flying the 407 now for five years as well I fly the L4...hate going back on the L...the 407 is just too nice.As mentined once you have the fadec system logged into the memory banks the a/c is a dream to fly.We had a few wireing glitches a few years back but a new wireing harness fixed the problem.When you start to fly the 407 you will note the controls are even more sensitive than the L's and with boosted pedals you will be doing the old swing thing until you lighten up on the cyclic and stop pushing left then right pedal...usually a few minutes of hovering and a good slap by the instructor and you will get the hang of it.The407 is way faster than the L...way more power and tailrotor control that is unbelieveable and if it is tracked out good is so smooth...no more humping through the sky in a two bladed lead sled...she is some sweet ride:P
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01/28/2005 1:38 PM  
...all that REV said and more. It's a pilots aircraft, crisp, agile and fast. If you're over 5' 9" the cockpit can be a bit cramped on a long flight. There are pedal mods available to get some more legroom. It may temp out (MGT) at altitude, but WILL do what ever the Flight manual charts say it will....and more. I have about 1,500 hrs on it now, and definitely is my favorite type..ever. Good luck Don
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01/30/2005 10:00 AM  
Good info! Thanks to all that replied!! Bill
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02/03/2005 9:30 AM  
Hey guys, I don't have any time in the 407, and in fact I've not even seen one up close, so please excuse my ignorance if this is a silly question. I fly the Bell 430, and we use an Integrated Instrument Display System (IIDS) for all engine, hydraulic, rotor, fuel, caution/warning, and power indicators. It is just two LCD screens, but they are linked directly to the FADEC ECU and HMUs. You mentioned the 407s FADEC, and I was just wondering if it also used the IIDS system. Thanks, GB
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02/04/2005 11:28 AM  
Hi...the 407 does not have the IIDS system...but I did see a aftermarket combination that had the horizon,dg ,airspeed,altitude,radar alt and other relavent enfo all displayed on a single screen with the terrain displayed with the horizon coupled into a gps...was very nice...if I see it at the HAI I will find out who is selling it.:P
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02/04/2005 3:40 PM  
Hello, just my two cents. The FADEC is as good as all have said, but something to watch out for is the gauge readings (limitations). The number for the top of the green arc TOT is listed as 727 deg. The number for the bottom of the yellow arc is listed as 727 deg. Now there is no limit for the time you spend in the green, but obviously there is a limit for the yellow. The FADEC thinks 727 deg is YELLOW ARC. This was true for all of the FADEC monitored gages. (Haven't seen a 407 manual recently) In the 206, we used to pull it to the top of the green and friction it down. You need to know and watch the 407 numbers. The digits are what the fadec sees, not the needle. Don't ask me how I know this. :( By the way, great news about the wiring harness upgrade. The original was the unsung villain in many FADEC failures.
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